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I agree with you. But look who you're responding to. Both are grifters (in the American style) and liars. This rhetoric takes my mind back to the Cameron/Osborne days. Osborne sacked many civil servants and was mystified that his tax take went down. No Tory has ever been serious about how to sort out social/financial issues, because they don't care about anything except the grift. You'd have to go back to before my time (I'm 71) to (possibly) find one who did. For example, if Cameron hadn't cut "the Green crap" how different might the UK be today? A (rare) coherent policy sacrificed for short term ambition. This is who they are, and it's always what they'll do. The case you've made is clear, but will make no difference in the long run. But the idea of Robert Jenrick being motivated to implement anything, even a crap policy is funny (a side note: my voice typing calls him Robert Generic. Does it know something I don't?). At this point we may as well accept we have a single Tory party with Reform (racist) and Restore (facist and racist) wings, all squabbling over the same piece of red meat. What they want is money, usually yours and mine, but power is a good substitute. Their hounding of people on welfare is just finding a victim class for their propaganda, because otherwise they'd have to do something difficult like identifying practical ways to deal with a climate emergency.

If Labour carries on down the road of somehow trying to fix the climate emergency by banning portable barbecues, we must identify someone to represent the needs of the working class in this country. As capital increasing flows upwards to a small number of oligarchs, the "working class" will eventually expand to include everyone who is not an oligarch. The only question is when people will realize they cannot save themselves by sucking up to the super rich. Unless you have a convenient bunker in New Zealand, the likelihood of you surviving a climate apocalypse is low. I'm sure Robert Jenrick will be available to sell you a portable climate bunker made of old newspapers and hope. I'm hoping this summer has given the people a taste of the future to come, but at this point in my life I don't have much hope for any level of common sense to manifest itself.

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Very good article. But there is no such thing as "Britain’s welfare system".

It's very much more complex. There are some elements of support through state pensions and social security that are UK wide - most notably the state pension/national insurance system and Universal Credit. The are some important elements where the Westminster parliament controls a benefit in England & Cymru-Wales, while the Stormont and Holyrood legislatures are responsible for the equivalent in the north of Ireland and Scotland - examples include PIP and Winter Fuel Payment (which are renamed Adult Disability Payment and Pension Age Winter Heating Payment in Scotland with different rules). There are relatively smaller benefit payments that are devolved entirely to the four separate jurisdictions, ie including "Welsh Benefits", but there are some including Educational Maintenance Allowances EMA (abolished in England but still existing in Cymru and Scotland), council tax/rates reduction schemes (rates still exist in north of Ireland) and discretionary fares schemes for public transport (which vary significantly - eg all under 22s have free bus travel in Scotland thanks to an initiative by the Scottish Greens). The Scottish Government also has a range of innovative new benefits specific to Scotland only and delivered through the new "Social Security Scotland" agency, including the highly significant Scottish Child Payment.

While its perfectly legitimate to point out the terrible effect of the Tory and Reform proposals and the weakness of Labour's stance for England, it shouldn't be assumed that exactly same things apply across the whole UK state.

This is especially since the May elections, as we are now back in a period of 'vertical partisan incongruence' of UK governance - no political party leading more than one of the four legislatures - and a new and significant so-called "Celtic Alliance" of the 3 leading parties in the other parts of the state (Sinn Fein, SNP, Plaid Cymru).

Secondly, it's important to point out the media discourse is now dominated by the US version of the term "welfare" - payments for being out of work - rather than the post 1940s UK version that is more generic and includes health and social services. The correct term should more often be "the costs of State Pensions and Social Security benefits" rather than "the Welfare bill".

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